
When I sat down with Tamron Hall on her nationally syndicated talk show, I knew we were going to dive into one of my favorite topics: reimagining marriage so it actually works for real couples. What I didn’t expect was how many people watching would resonate so strongly with the idea of The Five-Year Marriage®.
For too long, marriage has been thought of as a “set it and forget it” kind of institution. You say “I do” once, and then you’re expected to coast through decades of life together without ever renegotiating the terms. But as I explained to Tamron and her audience, life changes—and so do we. Careers shift, families grow, priorities evolve. A marriage that was perfect at 25 may need re-designing at 40 or 55.
That’s where The Five-Year Marriage® comes in.
Why a Marriage Contract That Renews Every Five Years?
During the interview, I explained that the Five-Year Marriage isn’t about short-changing commitment—it’s about strengthening it. Every five years, you and your partner come back to the table, check in on what’s working and what’s not, and make new agreements that reflect who you are now.
Think of it like a business partnership or even renewing a lease: you wouldn’t expect an agreement to last forever without updates. Marriage deserves the same intentionality.
The Reaction on Tamron Hall’s Show
One of the most exciting parts of being on Tamron Hall’s show was hearing the audience reaction. Some people were shocked at first—“Married in five-year increments?!”—but then you could see the lightbulbs go off.
Couples in the audience started nodding, some even whispering to each other. Later, messages poured in from viewers who said:
- “This finally makes sense to me.”
- “We’ve been together 20 years, and this is how we’ve survived—without even realizing it!”
- “I wish we had this framework earlier in our marriage.”
It was proof that so many couples are looking for new models that give them freedom, structure, and the ability to grow together instead of apart.
What This Means for You
Whether you’re newly married, planning your wedding, or navigating a second marriage, the Five-Year Marriage is a blueprint for designing a partnership on your terms. It’s not about rules—it’s about creating the life you want with the person you love.
On Tamron’s show, I shared real examples of how this works in my own marriage. My spouse Joseph and I have been together for over three decades, but married six times (at the time of the interview – 8 times now!) —to each other. Each five-year contract has reflected the stage of life we were in, from caring for our parents to growing careers to planning retirement.
Watch the Interview
If you missed it live, you can catch the highlights from my conversation with Tamron Hall in the video below:
Ready to Reimagine Your Marriage?
If what I shared on Tamron Hall’s show resonated with you, I invite you to dive deeper in my book, The Five-Year Marriage: Second Edition. It’s filled with stories, strategies, and practical tools for couples who want to stop living by outdated rules and start creating marriages that thrive.
📖 Grab your copy of The Five-Year Marriage: 2nd Edition today »
Final Thought
Marriage doesn’t have to be “forever the same.” It can be forever evolving. That’s the beauty of The Five-Year Marriage—it gives you permission to grow together, with intention, every step of the way.